CONSERVATIVE BLOGS AREN’T INTERESTED IN THE HORRIBLE TRUTH OF WHITE ON WHITE MURDER


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As a crime writer I have come to accept that some people just cannot handle the truth. I’ve been reading crime stats from the US for years and death rates for just as long. The conservative blogosphere at sites like Stormfront, Newsbusters and ViolenceAgainstWhites would have you believe that blacks are on the rampage because the ratio of blacks that killed whites in 2010 was 2.05x.

What they are missing is that in a nation of 317,296,340 souls at the time of this post, that translates into a factor of .000001408 or 1 incidence of black on white murder out of every 710,000 people. That isn’t likely to convince any conservatives but maybe this stat will be an eyeopener that will give them pause before they start in on crime and race. The rate of white suicide in the same year, when you consider 34,690 white killed themselves in 2010, gives a incidence rate for population of 1 out of every 9168 people.

That’s the difference between a city the size of Baltimore vice a hamlet the size of Clinton, Oklahoma. That means every 15 minutes or so, somewhere in America a white person commits suicide, a number that is staggeringly far too high. Equally, a white person is killed by a black person in America every 18 hours and 40 or so minutes. The simple math shows where the real violence is here the rate of white self murder is 72.5 times that of black on white crime.

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34 Responses to “CONSERVATIVE BLOGS AREN’T INTERESTED IN THE HORRIBLE TRUTH OF WHITE ON WHITE MURDER”

  1. neocon01 Says:

    actually you slap everything boogy man on “conservatives” NO we fully recognize there are many many white criminals, we also recognize that when a certain demographis of @ 12.5 % of the population commits 50% of all violent crime there is a HUGE problem in that demographic.
    To deny this and blame it on racism is insanity.

    http://projects.wsj.com/murderdata/?mg=inert-wsj#view=all&vr=B

  2. neocon01 Says:

    suicide is not criminal activity, lets focus on rape, murder, robbery, assault, and the demographics of those who bring this unwanted menace to law abiding people.
    you are worried about some making the CHOICE of ending THEIR OWN life but not about the so called “choice” of taking anthers for no other reason but selfishness which is what we (conservatives) call murder.

  3. Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

    I’m sorry bill, suicide is criminal activity because it is self homicide. To gloss that over to skew the statistics to your bigoted view that the only problems in America regarding crime involve people browner than you is not only ignorant it is what feeds this horrible problem that costs America billions per year and not a small amount of grief and suffering. I know though if you looked at the suicide rate for what it is it would threaten your artifice of superiority.

    • neocon01 Says:

      Now now freddy go off the talking points and BS “bigot” term hurled so often by the left. These names and terms are meaningless to me, but do show you have a preconceived prejudice which blinds you.

      Homicide

      According to the United States Department of Justice: Blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicides, whites 45.3% and Native Americans and Asians 2.2%, from 1980 to 2008. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher. Most murders were intraracial, with 84% of white homicide victims murdered by whites, and 93% of black victims murdered by blacks.[30][31]

      • neocon01 Says:

        no FPfreddy it would bolster the number to my side……84% of white victims were murdered by white…so suicide figures into that number? OK with me

        93% of blacks were murdered by their brethren not suicide…..
        thanks for the boost.

    • neocon01 Says:

      Hispanics

      According to a 2009 report by the Pew Hispanic Center, in 2007 Latinos “accounted for 40% of all sentenced federal offenders-more than triple their share (13%) of the total U.S. adult population”.
      This was an increase from 24% in 1991. 72% of the Latino offenders were not U.S. citizens.

  4. Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

    Bill that’s fine but let’s look at the raw numbers shall we? Blacks in the United States in 2010 from FBI stats killed 477 whites. Whites killed themselves over 34,000 times. Which do you think is the bigger problem?

    • neocon01 Says:

      easy
      The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher.

      • neocon01 Says:

        Mental disorders

        Mental disorders are often present at the time of suicide with estimates ranging from 27%[21] to more than 90%.[14] Of those who have been admitted to a psychiatric unit, their lifetime risk of completed suicide is about 8.6%.[14] Half of all people who die by suicide may have major depressive disorder; having this or one of the other mood disorders such as bipolar disorder increases the risk of suicide 20-fold.[22] Other conditions implicated include schizophrenia (14%), personality disorders (14%),[23] bipolar disorder,[22] and posttraumatic stress disorder.[14] About 5% of people with schizophrenia die of suicide.[24] Eating disorders are another high risk condition.[25]

        A history of previous suicide attempts is the greatest predictor of eventual completion of suicide.[14] Approximately 20% of suicides have had a previous attempt and of those who have attempted suicide 1% complete suicide within a year[14] and more than 5% commit suicide after 10 years.[25] Acts of self-harm are not usually suicide attempts and most who self-harm are not at high risk of suicide.[26] Some who self-harm; however, do still end their life by suicide and risk for self-harm and suicide may overlap.[26]

        In approximately 80% of completed suicides the individual has seen a physician within the year before their death,[27] including 45% within the prior month.[28] Approximately 25–40% of those who completed suicide had contact with mental health services in the prior year.[21][27]
        Substance use
        “The Drunkard’s Progress”, 1846 demonstrating how alcoholism can lead to suicide

        Substance abuse is the second most common risk factor for suicide after major depression and bipolar disorder.[29] Both chronic substance misuse as well as acute intoxication are associated.[13][30] When combined with personal grief, such as bereavement, the risk is further increased.[30] Additionally substance misuse is associated with mental health disorders.[13]

        Most people are under the influence of sedative-hypnotic drugs (such as alcohol or benzodiazepines) when they commit suicide[31] with alcoholism present in between 15% and 61% of cases.[13] Countries that have higher rates of alcohol use and a greater density of bars generally also have higher rates of suicide[32] with this link being primarily related to distilled spirit use rather than total alcohol use.[13] About 2.2–3.4% of those who have been treated for alcoholism at some point in their life die by suicide.[32] Alcoholics who attempt suicide are usually male, older, and have tried to commit suicide in the past.[13] Between 3 and 35% of deaths among those who use heroin are due to suicide (approximately 14 fold greater than those who do not use).[33]

        The misuse of cocaine and methamphetamines has a high correlation with suicide.[13][34] In those who use cocaine the risk is greatest during the withdrawal phase.[35] Those who used inhalants are also at significant risk with around 20% attempting suicide at some point and more than 65% considering it.[13] Smoking cigarettes is associated with the risk of suicide.[36] There is little evidence as to why this association exists; however it has been hypothesized that those who are predisposed to smoking are also predisposed to suicide, that smoking causes health problems which subsequently make people want to end their life, and that smoking affects brain chemistry causing a propensity for suicide.[36] Cannabis however does not appear to independently increase the risk.[13]

  5. Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

    Apples and oranges again Bill. The post was about a violent crime the crime of suicide. This is a growing epidemic and I guarantee if blacks were killing 34,000 whites a year there would have been a groundswell among conservatives to round up every black males soul under the age of 70 and put them into some sort of “security camp” so the wider society could function without fear. I recognize why you refuse to even admit that their is a holocaust of suicide in the white community and I am sure you will lean on the more than a million abortions a year crutch to change the subject again but can you even offer a guess why 34,000 white people killed themselves in 2010? And if not why isn’t this something conservatives would try to work against?

    • neocon01 Says:

      freddy

      By the way Merry CHRISTmas…….

      And if not why isn’t this something conservatives would try to work against?

      ABSOLUTELY and we DO.

      see above, most suicides are results alcohol and drug induction, Conservatives are anti drug and started AA.

      second is mental illness, Catholic hospitals and charities have been leaders in helping these people. as well ans many other resources.

      round up every black male?? camon freddy even you dont believe that BS do you?
      besides it was the left that did that you know the democrat KKK, leftist nazis, leftist communists……
      get off the kool aid and back into reality man.

  6. Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

    Peer reviewed research verified with records from the Centers for Disease Control and prevention:

    http://www.suicidology.org/c/document_library/get_file?folderId=262&name=DLFE-635.pdf

  7. Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

    The link you provided for murders in the US is accurate but only for your purposes because it doesn’t take into account either the race of the victim or the race of the offender. This link does.

    As you can see 447 whites were killed by blacks in 2010. While this is a tragedy can you explain why, if dead is dead, 72 times more white people ended up dead from suicide than at the hands of blacks? Aren’t white people then using rote logic more dangerous to themselves than blacks are to them when lives are at stake?

  8. neocon01 Says:

    RUT RO

    Suicide Among Homosexuals

    Lesbians are two times more likely to attempt suicide than straight women.
    Attempts by gay and lesbian youth</b account for up to 30% of all completed suicides.
    Gay teens are 3 times more likely to attempt suicide than their heterosexual peers.
    Gay youth are 4 times more likely to make a suicide attempt requiring medical attention.
    Gay men are six times more likely to attempt suicide than their heterosexual peers.

  9. Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

    And yes much of that is true because of the suffering caused by conflict caused mostly by conservatives who demand that to be a man you must be with a woman and vice versa. Bullying of gay and lesbian teens also contributes highly to this number.

    • neocon01 Says:

      bullying?? REALLY??

      When I (heterosexual) go to work, the store, meet people, make friends, associate with anybody, join clubs, political parties I – (WE) NEVER EVER for ANY reason mention OUR sexuality, preferences, orientation, likes dislikes etc etc etc.

      NOT so with the homosexual crowd, it is worn on their chest as a badge of honor, it is a club to beat one on the head with if you disagree with their badge, it is the kiss of death in the work place to even mention, criticize, of point out any negatives with homosexual people. ask DD.

      Now tell me old man WHY do you feel it necessary to inform me that you buggar other men and suck their dicks??

      Dont ask DONT TELL and nobody would give a shit, ahhhhhh BUT we all know there is an AGENDA!!!

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        Well here’s how I (bi-sexual) see it. The people I meet every day I see as people. I have a wide range of conversations, join clubs and am a member of a political party. Like you I am married as well to two people whom I love because this activity falls within the law here. One is transgender the other is female. it is the best of both worlds. LGBT people are just like straight people except for one glaring fact. The only straight people who had to suffer religious and legal discrimination were those who wanted to marry someone outside of their race. For us, marrying at all was never a possibility in America until current times. And why would you think that is Bill?

      • neocon01 Says:

        gee freddy that was only in the DEMOCRAT south…..why do you think that was freddy?

      • neocon01 Says:

        and same sex liaisons NEVER have, NEVER will, be “marriage” any more that fucking a horse is “marriage” .
        re defining terms does not change the reality of nature.

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        Funny Bill people in the South AND the North said that about interracial marriege in the 1940s and 1950s. Look at America now.

  10. neocon01 Says:

    sorry freddy, I was responding to the huge screaming headline

    “CONSERVATIVE BLOGS AREN’T INTERESTED IN THE HORRIBLE TRUTH OF WHITE ON WHITE MURDER”

    must have missed the fine print containing one sentence about suicide.
    carry on ….what is your take that 33% od ALL suicides are completed by LESS than 2% of the population?

  11. neocon01 Says:

    damn Amish….

    5 Shot, 3 Killed Outside Strip Club In Irvington on Christmas eve…..

  12. but but but…negroes !
    who were soo very nappy…er, i mean happy
    afore dem civil rights :))

    • neocon01 Says:

      OO er o3

      “Each year, roughly 7,000 blacks are murdered. Ninety-four percent of the time, the murderer is another black person.

      According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, between 1976 and 2011 there were 279,384 black murder victims. Using the 94 percent figure means that 262,621 were murdered by other blacks. Though blacks are 13 percent of the nation’s population, they account for more than 50 percent of homicide victims. Nationally, the black homicide victimization rate is six times that of whites, and in some cities it’s 22 times that of whites. Coupled with being most of the nation’s homicide victims, blacks are most of the victims of violent personal crimes, such as assault and robbery.

      The magnitude of this tragic mayhem can be viewed in another light. According to a Tuskegee Institute study, between the years 1882 and 1968, 3,446 blacks were lynched at the hands of whites. Black fatalities during the Korean War (3,075), Vietnam War (7,243) and all wars since 1980 (8,197) come to 18,515, a number that pales in comparison with black loss of life at home. It’s a tragic commentary to be able to say that young black males have a greater chance of reaching maturity on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan than on the streets of Philadelphia, Chicago, Detroit, Oakland, Newark and other cities.”

      • Neocon according to the CDC an average of 28,000 whites committed suicide between 2000 and 2010. That’s a total of 280,000 deaths in one third of the thirty five year metric you offered for black on black homicide. If you carry those numbers back to 1976 for white suicide you would have 980,000 suicides a more than three and a half times result. So what does the white community need to keep them from killing themselves? And this isn’t a new phenomenon either. In 1950 the suicide rate per 100,000 persons was even higher; even when whites had no natural predators and their wasn’t as much media and religion was in the classroom, the boardroom and the courtroom. So having power over lower classes and races has done nothing to stem the tide of white suicide, actually the inverse is true. As the nation became more liberal in the 60s 70s and 80s the suicide rate began to drop for whites. Now among white men 45-54 it is nearly at the highs of the 1950s. How is this not an epidemic?

      • neocon01 Says:

        fewer old people
        less alcohol abuse, addiction
        less drug usage, abuse, addiction
        fewer homosexuals

        now how can we stop the murderous rampage, rape, robbery, assaults, that MORE than 50% are committed by LESS than 13% of the population?

  13. neocon01 Says:

    suicide is a ****PERSONAL………..CHOICE***** by the person involved, IF they wanted your help they would have asked. Maybe natures way of thinning losers from the herd.
    NOW
    lets address the MURDER of 55 MILLION INNOCENT CHILDREN who wanted to live but were deprived the most precious gift of life with NO say in the matter…talk about an epidemic.

    • Then by the same “reasoning” then deciding to murder or rape or rob is a PERSONAL CHOICE as well, right? Just as a woman’s PERSONAL CHOICE to have a child, a living child or to abort a fetus which cannot survive outside the womb. Exactly how would you grant a say to someone who is unborn Neocon? If you gave all the rights of the majority to a fetus then what about the rights of children once they are born. Now you have a situation where anyone of any age has legal rights the same as you and I as adults. Think on that for a moment.

      I understand that the majority of those fetuses that have been aborted since 1973 would be adults now and would have made the difference between the twilight of a white conservative majority in America and another generation that likely would not be as Progressive as what will come in the sunset of your lifetime. This isn’t an epidemic at all it is simply on par with the number of miscarriages, estimated at between 900,000 and 1.5 million each year. Tell me Neocon1 who exactly is responsible for the 59,000,000 fetuses who died from miscarriages since 1973 and the billions who died before then?

  14. neocon01 Says:

    Hundreds of (BLACK) “teens) (feral animals) trash mall in wild flash mob

    By Kevin Sheehan, Natasha Velez and Natalie O’Neill

    December 27, 2013 | 1:01pm

    Hundreds of negros stormed and trashed a Brooklyn mall in a wild flash mob that forced the shopping center to close its doors during day-after Christmas sales, sources said on Friday.

    More than 400 crazed black teens grabbed and smashed jars of candy, stole cheap items such as baby balloons and beat up security guards at Kings Plaza Shopping Center in Mill Basin between 5 p.m. and 7 p.m., merchants said.

    A violent “game” (CRIME) of “Knockout” also broke out on the upper level of the mall — and one negro teen may have been carrying a gun, sources said.

  15. From the NY Post article ““You know they were playing the knockout game yesterday,” said perfume merchant Shante, 21, referencing a game in which teens try to knock each other out with a single punch.
    “People were getting really scared. A tall white guy with a grey bubble coat was wearing a ski mask and a skull cap and he had his hand under his coat like he was holding a gun,” she said.
    Some teens took to Twitter to brag about the trashing the mall.
    “Kings Plaza was on tilt today,” Ray Rat Sextana wrote on Facebook.”

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