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DOES ANYTHING HERE SOUND FAMILIAR?

Posted in FRED SCHWARTZ OPINIONS, IN HINDSIGHT with tags , on 17/04/2014 by Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.]

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I was just reading Mark Noonan’s latest screed about free speech. I’d like to remind readers of this blog that we do not delete comments for any reason unless requested to do so, or in the case of errant information or potentially actionable cases of libel; all of which have taken place a collective total of five times in nearly nine years of bringing reason to the Living. That said the kernel of reason in Mark’s post was washed away quickly by his inability to understand that free speech isn’t always civil. People with passions about issues are often hostile in their words. Like many journalists I would like cooler heads to prevail and intellect to rule discourse, but hey, I’m quick to call a motherfucker a motherfucker when the situation warrants.

Retired Spook made an interest comment here it is in full

I apply the same metrics to free speech that I apply to anything involving freedom. When someone condemns something I’ve said, my first reaction is, why? That simple one word question, more often than not, will open a dialogue, and, worst case scenario, you may just have to agree to disagree. Now if someone goes beyond disagreeing to attempting to punish me for something I said or prevent me from saying it, then my fall-back position is ALWAYS, “I will defend my right to say what I said with my life. Will you defend your position to punish me for what I said with YOUR life? If not, then get the hell out of my face. I’ve found, 100% of the time, that people who would attempt to shut someone up that they disagree with NEVER go beyond either the mob mentality of shouting someone down or recruiting others to do the dirty work for them.

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In Hindsight
That last line in italics is the part that makes me wonder about the belief that Mark Noonan and many of the others on the conservative side of the fence really have in their ideology. It’s also what made Cluster take down his own site simply because people cannot be cordial. Fuck that. If you don;t have passion for politics and political thinking you need to go back to your knitting group. This is a hardball issue that will affect the future not only of America but of the world you live in. If that’s not worth calling someone an asshole or a fucking bigot when you clearly know they are then get out of the game.

Pax Terra!

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DCOBRANCHI EXPLAINS IT ALL

Posted in FRED SCHWARTZ OPINIONS, FREEDOM, THEY EXPLAIN IT ALL with tags on 08/04/2014 by Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.]

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As posted by one of our long time readers at B4V:

“I’m perfectly capable of arguing with the folks here. It’s simply not worthwhile. We on the left do not need to suppress you. You’re dinosaurs and will die out, unloved, unremarked, and unmissed. You’ve lost the arguments. All of them. Gay marriage will be the law everywhere in a few years. Abortion is here to stay. Obamacare. Well, you’ve got your guns. Cling to them. While you can.”

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In Hindsight

That’s it in a nutshell. I did see the weak argument from mark Noonan that conservatives are marrying more than Liberals and they are having more children. I will grant him both of those points. In the end though I would be willing to bet that as soon as those conservative kids become 18 they bolt from the trough of horseshit they’ve been fed during their formative years for the freedom of rational thought, good sex and diverse friendships and interests. The only other options they’d have would be to be like their bland angry parents, or worse, end up a hypocrite like Mark Noonan.

Qu’ul cuda praedex nihil!

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A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF WHY THE RIGHT IS WRONG

Posted in BIGOTRY, BLOGS 4 VICTORY, CONSERVATIVE ANTI-INTELLECTUALISM, CONSERVATIVE BIGOTRY, CONSERVATIVE DESPERATION, CONSERVATIVE FEAR, CONSERVATIVE HEADS EXPLODING, CONSERVATIVE HYPOCRISY, CONSERVATIVE IGNORANCE, CONSERVATIVE INCITEMENT TO VIOLENCE, CONSERVATIVE LIES, CONSERVATIVE NEWS, CONSERVATIVE RESISTANCE TO FACT CHECKING, CONSERVATIVE VIOLENCE, CONSERVATIVES ARE OLD AND DYING AND SCARED, COUNTER-SHAI'TANISM, COUNTER-THEOCRACY, MARK EDWARD NOONAN, SARAH BLOCH OPINIONS with tags , , , , , on 07/04/2014 by sarahbloch

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I had fleeting memory of Cindy McCain and Megan McCain being in an ad for the gay rights group NOH8 four years ago but this ad has burned an image in the mind of Mark Noonan at Blogs4Victory. Noonan an intractable Catholic conservative who is so concerned with his own immortal Soul that he would be willing to disenfranchise millions of Americans, deny millions more their civil rights and even deny health care options to every woman in America who would seek any form of birth control writes:

“I remember a while back ago when I saw a picture of Cindy and Meghan McCain made up in the “NoH8″ logo and it immediately occurred to me just how absolutely disgusting it was – while “NoH8″ had been around for a while, it suddenly struck me what it really meant – what the liberal fascists, that is, meant by using it: that anyone who disagrees with them is a hate-filled bigot, unfit for decent company. It told me, point blank, that by the mere fact of being a Catholic in accord with the Magisterium, I was the modern version of Bull Connor. Plenty of Republicans fell for it – after all, it was just about not hating, right? Perhaps not. Maybe the whole purpose of “NoH8″ was to get people to hate the “other” – in this case, anyone who disagreed with same-sex marriage?”

This is just the beginning of a post (which should be read in full to understand the lunacy of the right) that exposes what is wrong with the mainstream religious conservative in America. In one way he wants special treatment for himself and his beliefs despite not holding these beliefs all his life and not ever being challenged or discriminated against because of them. This is in stark contrast with countless black Americans, women and LGBTQ persons who have given their lives in their struggle for equality with self proclaiming religious white men.

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Noonan, a Catholic is now on the same side of history as those who were in the Ku Klux Klan in their heyday at the onset of the Roaring Twenties. The similarities between the rhetoric, bigotry and desire for unearned privilege is almost without divergence. He makes a point that any conservative that disagrees with a Liberal who feels that LGBTQ Americans deserve the same equal treatment under the law as he does as a citizen will be portrayed as a bigot or worse, is a non-starter. Anyone who does this and stands on their religion as the proof and reason IS a bigot. It is the height of hubris that Mark Edward Noonan feels that his Catholic beliefs should strip the rights of anyone. This is the definition of bigotry; that one’s beliefs are a legitimate reason to hate.

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This is nothing new coming from Noonan or from conservatives in America panicked that their unearned privilege has been exposed and that their numbers are dwindling. It is no wonder that he can bear none of my comments at his site no matter how civil or fact filled. He stands on his faith which he holds more dear than the rule power of the Constitution which conservatives swear they want America to return. This is yet another paradox for those who think like Noonan. It is not enough for him that he lives in a nation that is the most free in the world (despite NSA spying and runaway technological snooping by corporations) he and his brethren must rule; especially if it is at the expense of those who do not share his values.

Qu’ul cuda praedex nihil!

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CONSERVATIVES ARE LIARS

Posted in AMAZONA IS A CUNT, BLOGS 4 VICTORY, CONSERVATIVE ANTI-INTELLECTUALISM, CONSERVATIVE BIGOTRY, CONSERVATIVE LIES, CONSERVATIVE STUPID EMAIL FORWARDS, FRED SCHWARTZ OPINIONS, IN HINDSIGHT, MARK EDWARD NOONAN with tags , , , on 14/01/2014 by Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.]

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I know the headline here seems a bit harsh, but when millions of people believe lies and repeat them despite having been given the Truth then they are liars. Mark Noonan over at Blog4Victory has stood on his Catholic faith time and time again saying that he doesn’t want to be associated with liars and people who perpetuate lies yet he continues to associate with Amazona who writes this in comments to the most recent post of 10 January 2014, posted by tiredoflibbs:

“Barack Obama was steeped in contempt and even loathing for the United States from birth, from both sides of his family and from his involvement with people like Davis. These early influences have shown through the mantle of American Patriot he had to assume, at least to some limited extent, to be able to run for office in this country. It has been seen in his speeches, in his Crotch Salute during the playing of the national anthem, in his disparaging comments and his Apology Tour, in his pandering to the enemies of the United States and his lack of respect for our allies.”

What appears in bold type there has been passed around in the conservative blogosphere for nearly five years. This “crotch salute” was a lie then and it is a lie now. The effort I applied to find the Truth in this matter took me only eight seconds of searching and less than a minute of reading. For those conservatives who say I am blinded by “Obama worship syndrome” or some other nonsensical fiction, they need only see the other verification that Obama in the photo in question was standing while Hail to the Chief played, which means had he saluted he would have been saluting himself, by simply doing a Google search.

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In Hindsight
The visceral need for conservatives need to make this man, who only has one difference from the other 43 presidents who came before him, into the Devil himself, is appalling. No matter their insistence that they are not racists, their bigotry seethes out in other ways whether that be that he is their nostalgic wish to go back to the days of the Cold War and have a communist enemy to fight or looking into modern times to make him a part of the Muslim apostasy that caught America with their pants down on 11 September 2001. Despite their loud and continuing cries this man belong to neither of these groups and I still hold that history will bear out that Barack Hussein Obama is one of the greatest Presidents of the United States of all time.

Pax Terra!

Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., CS, O.Q.H [Journ.]
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THE KNOCKOUT GAME

Posted in BIGOTRY, BLOGS 4 VICTORY, CONSERVATIVE BIGOTRY, CONSERVATIVE FEAR, CONSERVATIVE HYPOCRISY, CONSERVATIVE IGNORANCE, CONSERVATIVE INCITEMENT TO VIOLENCE, CONSERVATIVE LIES, CONSERVATIVE NEWS, CONSERVATIVE STUPID EMAIL FORWARDS, CONSERVATIVE VIOLENCE, MARK EDWARD NOONAN with tags , , , on 22/11/2013 by Majordomo Pain

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The MSM is now reporting on a violent trend that has been in the conservative blogosphere for some time now. Conservatives, in their lust to show that American minorities are out for their blood, virginal daughters and property, have brought into the mainstream of American news a crime of violence mostly perpetrated by black youths called The Knockout Game. Mark Noonan at BlogsforVictory thinks that this game, where one tries to knock an unknown and innocent person unconscious with one punch to the head, is a by product of a shadowy but pervasive thing called “liberalism.” Noonan also states his belief that if America would just go back to the days when the Church ruled the lives of Americans and was unquestionable, when public office holders could not be ridiculed and women and minorities “knew their place” all the violence and fear that is now in the minds of Conservatives would be gone and the ship that is America would free itself from its wandering course toward prosperity.

We, Ourselves, of the Collective disagree with Mr Noonan’s assessment. Had he been living one hundred years ago We, and the Meditators, doubt that he would have written a similar article denouncing his Conservative and self proclaimed religious brethren for their bombing of Greenwood in Tulsa, Oklahoma or for the lynching of dozens of blacks in 1913. Noonan does not know the names of Henry Mouseon, David Rucker, Andrew Williams or Pastor Charles Tyson who suffered a far greater fate than being punched in the face by an angry and ignorant youth. The men and women and children who flocked to these spectacles, Conservatives all, were seen as people with the intestinal fortitude to “maintain order” at any cost. These were Mark Edward Noonan’s people then and they are the sort of people Mark Edward Noonan, the TEA Party and the helpless whelps of modern middle class white Conservatism poisoned by talk radio and email chains that play around the skirts of bigotry would choose to associated themselves with religiously, politically and ideologically. Maybe, just maybe, the Conservatives should consider the serious issues in their community involving the hundreds of gun related murder suicides and thousands of gun related suicides that are taking place in America annually before they fearmonger on the violent actions of those they feel are not worthy to be Americans?

Qu’ul cuda praedex nihil!

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THE BEST POLITICAL ARTICLE YOU WILL READ TODAY COMES FROM ALLPOLYTICS NOW

Posted in AllpolyticsNow, SARAH BLOCH OPINIONS with tags , , on 29/10/2013 by sarahbloch

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This one comes from kmgtwo based on the galactically stupid article from CNS News that was reposted by Mark Noonan. There are more holes in the conservative arguments made by CNS and B4V than fromage suisse. Anywho, the runout of all of this is more proof that the right doesn’t really care about facts they simply want to keep their dying angry base in a constatnt state of feeling victimized in the hope that just one of them might do the crazy thing that thousands of other want to do but are afraid of kicking off. And yes, I do think there is a mighty and deep vein of violence on the right that is just about at the tipping point and I don’t mean just among the ever present lunatic fringe. Middle class people are hurting and we’re talking about folks who when they feel cornered no one and I mean no one can tell them that their world is over.

Qu’ul cuda praedex nihil!

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MARK NOONAN GIVES TWO STATEMENTS ON WHY THE FAR RIGHT MUST DEPART THE GOP OR BE JETTISONED FROM THE PARTY

Posted in BLOGS 4 VICTORY, DIANE VALENCEN OPINIONS, MARK EDWARD NOONAN with tags , , , , , on 19/10/2013 by Diane Valencen, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H [Journ.], ArF J., M.F.

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This one first:

The true freeloaders cannot, at this point, be converted…but the single mom working 40 hours a week who also gets $200 a month in SNAP can be brought over…not by an appeal for lower taxes (she pays hardly any) or by an appeal to the Constitution (she probably couldn’t accurately give even one of the rights in the Bill of Rights), but by explaining to her that she’s struggling because the liberals she votes for are stealing from her.

As I see it the true freeloaders in America are not those who cannot work, or even those who refuse to work. Instead they are the corporations who make millions and sometimes billions in profits yet feel they need tax breaks from the government while refusing to hire new workers even when that new income would inject new steam in the US consumer economy. Those entities who want the rights of individuals cannot be converted.
Regarding the single mother who gets SNAP benefits Mark Noonan assumes many things with his statement. He assumes that single mothers are ignorant of history while not taking into account the revisionist notions that he himself holds as truth regarding the Constitution. An appeal to the document that governs the United States simply does not interest anyone save for those who feel there is no other means by which to argue against a President that they feel is the Other. Keep in mind that there were not any such appeals during the Clinton years save from those of militias and fringe groups like the Branch Davidians.

Then there’s this:

I presume you mean that there are non-negotiable items which God has decreed and we must follow, come what may. I agree with that. We Christians have been tossed to lions before and if we’re to be so tossed again for our faith, then we’ll give glory to God for the honor. But our duty does lie in escape if that be possible – we are never to court martyrdom. As long as we are not being directly complicit in an immoral act, we’re fine – that immorality will go on all around us does not effect us unless we participate. This, I think, is what liberals don’t get – we don’t have a reason to stop people from doing wrong, but we must never be compelled to in any way, shape or form participate in it…so, we can’t bake a cake for gay marriage, nor pay for things which will buy abortion for others. If it comes down to that where I am to be forced by our government to participate in evil, then I’ll refuse and suffer what I must…though I hope, if it ever comes to that, that I’ll have the courage of a Cristero.
But we can still work with people – even, at times, with people who are ok with immorality. Tactical alliances can be made in the service of the larger good – if having a libertarian in favor of gay marriage yet gets me to the point where the laws will forbid anyone from forcing me to participate directly or indirectly in gay marriage, then that libertarian is my ally. I think we can cobble together a majority which will allow us to save the nation and, in the by and by, restore it to Judeo-Christian morality…but it will be an odd assortment of people, to begin with.

Mark Noonan has said many times that he will not side with liars. Anyone who is in favor of marriage equality is in Noonan’s eyes a liar. But now he is willing to “negotiate” on some things as long as this negotiation leads to the sort of Theocratic governmental success that he feels is the only true path for America. This is sad when you consider that the vast majority of problems that America faces these days are not simply moral issues but are issues of economics and secular law.

Qu’ul cuda praedex nihil!

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