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Charlotte Childress and her twin sister Harriet Childress are scientists and authors who run the website Clueless At The Top which deals with recognizing hierarchies within society at large as well as in your personal lives. Their site is not only worth exploring but should be mandatory reading if anyone wants to find a way out of the current societal messes on Terra. These two women seem to have found the solution. The duo published an editorial on the nature of mass shootings in the Washington Post yesterday and it too is worth a serious read. Comments from the hoi polloi follow in blokquote:

3/29/2013 7:53 PM EDT
White men? Checked out the Chicago crime statistics lately?

3/29/2013 7:55 PM EDT
how many of those chicago crimes were mass shootings (which was by the way the topic of the article that seems to have alluded you)

3/29/2013 7:54 PM EDT
Flawed reasoning by the Childresses but I get their point.

If it is wrong to single out all Black people when a few Black people act unfavorably, it is similarly wrong to single out White males in the same manner.

That said, I get the point that there is stunning silence from the usual group of finger pointers on this topic.

3/29/2013 7:57 PM EDT
This article reminds us that each socio-economic ethnic group has great people and not so great people.
– Men kill more adults than other people.
– Women kill their own babies.
– Blacks kill one another in dark lonely places for money.
– White boys kill lots of people in crowded places for no monetary gain.
– Muslims blow up people in Mosques or on pilgrimages.
– Hispanics kill people to control the drug trade.
We’re all sinners who on Good Friday need redemption.

3/29/2013 7:57 PM EDT
Let’s just be clear:

80% of gun crime is committed by non whites
In 2011 54% of the murder victims were black, yet blacks are only 13% of the population.
Murder is the leading cause of death of black men 15-34 years of age.
Blacks are 9 times more likely to commit murder than a white person.

3/29/2013 8:04 PM EDT
can you give us the percentage of mass murders committed by white males (which was, by the way, the topic of this article)?

How about the percentages for white males and alcohol related crimes?

sexual crimes?


That said, it’s probably not a good idea to try to attribute the actions of a few to an entire group

3/29/2013 9:10 PM EDT
Hilarious that it took less than 15 minutes for Epion to go full racist there!

Guess that’s what happens when you trip-up over yourself while scrambling to blame black people in response to what should be an introspective article.

3/29/2013 8:00 PM EDT
I don’t fully disagree with some of the points, but approaching any issue with this attitude only causes more damage. Two wrongs don’t make a right, and because white men have unfairly dominated American discourse up until now does not mean that making cultural blanket statements about them is any more correct than doing this to any other group.

I believe the healthier thing to do here is find common bonds among those that do commit these crimes to find out what took them to that place. Sure, white skin and being a male is often involved. But a lot of our population is white and male, so that’s a nearly pointless point to start building a case from. What other characteristics do these mass shooters share?

Again, I understand where the Childresses are coming from on a certain level, but their discourse is bigoted and doesn’t get to the deeper levels necessary.

3/29/2013 8:01 PM EDT
If by white men you are specifically refering to the gun nuts, give it up. They dont learn, and they dont discuss.

Ron Niger
3/29/2013 8:02 PM EDT
A very poorly written article and completely void of common sense research. If the authors lived in Montgomery or Chicago, they would notice right away the number of blacks killing blacks each year far exceed the numbers in the recent mass killings. Are the authors out of touch, shallow, or poor researchers? I don’t know, but I think they have serious problems with white men in particular, as long as they are conservative or members of the NRA!

3/29/2013 8:02 PM EDT
It’s a valid point.. The most salient mass gun murders since Columbine have always been committed by white men.

If it had been any other demographic we would be demonizing them.

This coming from a white man.

3/29/2013 8:10 PM EDT
However, how many black on black killings happen every day? This coming from a white man!

3/29/2013 8:12 PM EDT
yes, but the point is if it was black on white killing, or blacks committing mass killing sprees they would be demonized. let’s be real, white people don’t care if black people kill black other black people.

3/29/2013 8:05 PM EDT
Since republicans want pee test to make sure welfare recipients are not drug addicts perhaps we should require pee tests before white men buy guns?

3/29/2013 8:05 PM EDT
statistics from the FBI show that black males are the cause of crime
Now the liberals do their best to try and say this isnt true
The reasoning is that by supporting the blacks do not cause crime in turn the blacks will support gay marriage
The liberal mantra…destroy the country one step at a time

3/29/2013 8:07 PM EDT
There is also treatment for paranoia.

3/29/2013 9:31 PM EDT
Interesting to see “white men” here overreacting to even the mildest critique of their behavior and culture. When the observations are in reverse theses same guys never display the slightest hesitance to be withering in condemnations and contempt. The authors state a fact that has been part of the culture and history of this country ( and other countries influenced by this Western cult) since its beginnings- a profoundly hypocritical and dishonest double standard. If white men get a pass-to many white boys grow up believing- they are not to be challenged even in their most pernicious machinations. Call it what it is-despite a history of accomplishment, many “white” men seem overwhelmed by a inferiority complex that just won’t quit.

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    I’m reading a lot of people say that if the mass killings were committed by blacks they would be demonized, meanwhile these same people simultaneously do not want to hear, at all, that most violent gun crime is committed by blacks. So, how successful would this demonization be?
    I’d say it would have absolutely no impact whatsoever on these two twits, err, twins, and others like them.

    • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

      I have heard that too BigFurHat but it simply is not true. Are you aware that there are more suicides by gun among whites than blacks and far more murder suicides by gun by whites than blacks? The problem isn’t going to be solved by spouting stats on who does what the solutions will only come in by way of an honest appraisal of the gun culture in America and addressing the fears of people that feel they need an arsenal in their homes, the ease at which one can get a firearm and issues of spousal and child abuse. Put those on the table and you would have a good start at decreasing, not eliminating gun violence.

      • in 2010 there were 358 murders involving a rifle. That same year 6009 people were murdered using a handgun.

        So, pojnt one – people who focus on “miltary-style assault weapons” are demonizing a weapon that cause about as much death per year as farming accidents.
        I’d say this is pretty idiotic.

        Now, as far as violent black crime is concerned –
        Raw Story-
        Since 1979, 44,038 black children and teenagers were killed by guns, nearly 13 times more than the number of recorded lynchings of blacks of all ages from 1882 to 1968, according to the Children’s Defense Fund.
        That is only the statistic for teens and below.
        According to a 1980 to 2008 trend analysis by the Bureau of Justice Statistics, blacks were disproportionately represented among homicide victims and offenders: They were six times more likely than whites to be homicide victims and seven times more likely than whites to commit homicide.


        Tell me more fairy tales about the gun control in America, where the Adam Lanza’s, who kill 20 people once in a blue moon, are the “real” problem. Where legal gun owners who commit a fraction of the gun crime are the target of Jim Carrey videos, Piers Morgan’s nightly pillow biting and your diversionary tactics?

        The problem in America is that progressives have ruined a race of people with their nitwitted “compassion,” that has patronized them into believing that they are not only victims, but they have no ability, no future, no power, unless it is handed to them by the benevolent white liberal – in exchange for their vote, of course.
        Meanwhile, what they have been bought with is a handful of breadcrumbs, enough to keep them happy and controlled in the inner city where they are more likely to die by gunfire than they would in the army.
        Why do you hate blacks so much, so much so that you would rather invent a crisis that doesn’t exist in order to not offend blacks while they are killing each other ?
        I find the left irrational, ineffectual, and, frankly, complicit in the genocide of the black man in America today.
        But your “black studies” degree tells you otherwise, because some other pony-tailed white professor has your back.


      • “in 2010 there were 358 murders involving a rifle. That same year 6009 people were murdered using a handgun.

        So, pojnt one – people who focus on “miltary-style assault weapons” are demonizing a weapon that cause about as much death per year as farming accidents.
        I’d say this is pretty idiotic.”

        Actually in 2010 there were far more than 6,009 people murdered with firearms from the CDC is 16, 259, [http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/deaths_2010_release.pdf] but that is beside the point. As the author of this post I’d like to ask if you think suicide since it results in death is as equally as important a matter as homicide as my colleague pointed out.

      • We, Ourselves, of The Collective have an inquiry. In your post at your blog you make this statement in comments:

        “Only to a progtard does this equation make sense.

        1 person killing 20 is much worse than 20 people killing 20 people.

        It doesn’t matter that that one person is dead or captured and that most of the 20 people who are murderers are still at large- WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE PROBLEM!!!!”

        Both are equally terrible crimes. One person killing one person or several or themselves doesn’t matter it is the termination of the living breathing Human Being that We, take issue with. Are you aware that Adam Lanza fired 154 rounds in less than five minutes before committing suicide? Do you not see the danger in having weapons with huge capacities? What would you say to the parents of the dead in Newtown, or in the SouthSide of Chicago for that matter, that your drumbeating against minorities and the possession of an assault weapon is more important than the lives of their children? Such a view to Us would be inhumane.

      • “I find the left irrational, ineffectual, and, frankly, complicit in the genocide of the black man in America today.
        But your “black studies” degree tells you otherwise, because some other pony-tailed white professor has your back.


        LOL! I guess you figured Mr Hat that my good friend Fred Schwartz would be “angered” by your impotent stereotype of him. Well he has made the point that he has no such degree as he graduated from Fordham way back in the day as the cool kids say. You comment about the genocide of the black man in America is both odious and hilarious. From reading your blog you feel that black Americans, especially the President are people to be mocked and loathed. I can only guess what you think of me a professional news editor [Lame stream media], lesbian married to her partner [gay agenda] AND a Progressive in her politics [see above].

      • First, cite a reference for your “stat” like BFH does. Second, of course there will be more deaths / suicides among whites – THERE ARE MORE OF THEM! Did you sleep through stats and logic class?

      • Shang Says:

        What do all those initials stand for?

  2. Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

    Let me start from the bottom. My degree isn’t in black studies. My degree is in applied journalism research. How you feel about the Left? Really isn’t germane to the topic, but I’ll tuck that one away.

    Trust me I don’t hate blacks and one of the main reasons I fight for the Progressive cause is because I love all of Humanity.

    I don’t feel at all that Progressives and yes I consider myself one have ruined a race of people at all. I feel that generations of second class citizenship have lead to a race of people having to struggle to simply be middle class in a wide swath of what is America for many, many generations. Had say, the Irish had a similar battle against a monolithic and institutional system of racism and bigotry I sincerely doubt if their lot would have been much better now in 2013 than that of the number of blacks in urban centers which are rife with crime and violence. Looking for the real reason there’s so much black crime? Two part answer: People like you who over generations have loathed black freedom and those powers that were and still are who created the environments which bred ignorance, violence and stymied economic growth and still profit from it in the form of cigarette sales, liquor sales and a myriad of other ways.

    You point out that there were over 44,000 black teenagers and children victims of homicide since 1979. Well, that’s a serious problem isn’t it which needs addressing. Any rate of homicide that high it appears to me you deem as a serious issue. Taking that into consideration the number of suicides among non-Hispanic whites was 28,897 in 2007 alone.

    • Had say, the Irish had a similar battle against a monolithic and institutional system of racism and bigotry I sincerely doubt if their lot would have been much better now in 2013 than that of the number of blacks in urban centers which are rife with crime and violence.

      As an Amercian of Irish descent, YES you putz, the Irish WERE the victims of bigotry. When the very first police officer of Irish descent walked onto the job in Boston in the early 19th century, the rest of the force walked off the job.

      Why aren’t those of Irish descent victims today? You would say it is because they are white. The intelligent say it is because they refused to be victims any longer. And one day, as more and more blacks see the devastation of your liberal policies upon them, they will realize that leaving the democrat plantation is in their best interest.

    • I feel that your feelings don’t mean shit.
      As for suicides, they should be taken out of the gun stats all together. Oppressed my ass. Affirmative action has been around as long as I have and has mandated a culture of gimmedat cause i be black and no accountability at all. Ditto welfare and rewarding black women for popping out numerous babies for more ebt money and dispensing with the need for a father in a family. Throw in the commie indoctrination centers known as public schools that teach nothing but racism and borgism and the propaganda arm of the commiecratic party and here we are.

      • sarahbloch Says:

        Exactly why should suicides be taken out of the statistics? Suicides are a form of violence because they result in the death of a person. What purpose other than skewing death rates by gun violence in favor of gun lovers could this possibly serve? Borgism? A Star trek reference?

      • Jethro Says:

        Sarahbloch – Suicides are not violence. Those that take that route see it as a relief. Read the notes they leave behind…

        Using your logic abortions are violence also. Stop the violence!!!!

        Borgism – Reading your collectivist rants would lead the average person to assume you to be “borgish”.

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        But abortions are violence Jethro in their own way. But this particular violence is a recognized as a medical procedure by law that a woman can choose to have. Suicide is an act that takes the life of a living breathing Soul and no it is not a relief for those who kill themselves because their suffering is just beginning. I don’t know what lies you were told Jethro but if you know anybody that’s ever killed themselves they are in Hell suffering in ways you cannot even imagine from now until . . . until there is no more time left to exhaust.

  3. Natty Says:

    BigFurHat nailed it while Schwartz is a clown and the ‘proud lesbian’ above him is just tiring.

  4. I’ll start with Diane.
    The president is to be mocked and loathed for his policies, not his skin color.
    I have never mocked the president because he is black.
    You seem to be a part of that ilk that is so consumed by skin color that you think mocking a person that happens to be black is tantamount to mocking them because they are black.
    That makes you the race obsessed bigot, but you will never see that because you’ve created your own reality based on pompousness and self-importance that could never allow you to see yourself as anything but a hero to the victim class – so it is vitally important to you that a victim class exists somehow and somewhere in your purview, lest your life become meaningless.

    Why would I care what your marital status is, or who you are married to? Just don’t force a religious institution into performing your marriage.
    That the government is at all involved in marriage, gay or straight, is the real problem. Gay marriage for me just expands the role of the state, which I am against. I understand that you want the financial benefits, I would too. But the confiscation of monies by the government that has forced them into assuaging the situation by “generously” doling out exemptions to their theft is the damn problem. But you’re a statist and will never identify the gay marriage problem as a problem that was created by the left. It’s like not being able to smell your own bad breath.
    But, please, don’t allow me to ruffle your tidy worldview.
    I’m sure that you’re a down the middle fair news editor, like a news editor is supposed to be, and not some agenda driven propagandist.
    I’m positive you are fair.

  5. Now, for the applied journalism research fella.

    How I feel about the left is all that is germane here. The Childress twits are attempting to mitigate black gun violence by trying to create a “white mass shootings ” crisis that is dwarfed by death by stabbings each year in America.
    No one is following their shiny balloon.
    Only an idiot, or an applied journalism researcher, would have the gall to try and peddle this crapola.
    This “crisis” is being manufactured in an attempt to get the nose of the camel into the tent. The agenda is to take all guns away from the citizenry. You’re not fooling anyone.
    Because progressives are complete bigots, they think that white people are going to be more open to letting them strip away the right to bear arms because it was 20 white kids that were killed. Nice try. I am unmoved.
    And the fact that this is failing unnerves you.
    I am positive that you and your colleagues have uttered the following –
    “I feel terrible saying this, but what we need is another mass shooting.”
    I know the left. I’m thought of as one of you. I play that part in “real life.” It’s enlightening. You people are despicable.

    Listen to yourself. One of the reasons you are a progressive is because “you love all humanity.”
    What an insufferable ass.
    One of the reasons I am NOT a progressive is because I believe that all humans can, and should, get along fine without me. You obviously think differently. You think the world would collapse if not for your presence. If a downtrodden victim wasn’t available it would be necessary for you to invent one.

    You have the temerity to say, “people like me loathe black freedom”???
    How dare you! Up yours.

    I have nothing to gain whatsoever by anyone not being free to pursue happiness.
    I have nothing to gain by anyone being in poverty.
    You obviously have a child’s understanding of how the economy works.
    Do you think I think if someone has money that means it’s harder for me to get it?
    Or if someone is poor that means “more available for me?”
    You must be some sort of moron to either believe that yourself, or think anyone else with a sixth grade education doesn’t know better.

    I would like nothing more than to wake up tomorrow to a robust economy where every able-bodied person has a job, a house, a family, a future and happiness. EVERYONE.
    Why would you think I would think that was a bad thing?
    You’re an idiot.
    Our conversation is over.
    There is nothing left to discuss with a jackass such as yourself, one who claims he “loves all humanity” -unless they are the cartoon stereotype bogeymen that you create in your fever dreams.

    Go huff your own farts, you walking cliche.

  6. Professor Personal Pronoun, ME,I,MEME,II,MEMEME,III Says:

    Could somebody please explain what an “assault weapon” is? That sounds like it might be very dangerous in the hands of an assaulter.

  7. Kauf Says:

    Though I am not a psychiatrist – nor an applied psychiatric researcher (gee…they sure do keep coming up with fancier and fancier names for degrees which prepare you for “do you want fries with that?” jobs) – all that Fred and Diane present here is more Leftist “transferral”…it’s what others in The “Real World” know of as FINDING SOMEONE ELSE TO BLAME. It’s the only kind of brainwashing that can make people believe that their own hatred and bigotry is “tolerance.” Your cultural fascism is disgusting.

  8. Kauf Says:

    From Bob Owens’ website: “Whites are under-represented by race in mass shootings, as are Hispanics, when you look at percentage of total population. Don’t take my word for it, either; look at the stats kept by über-left-wing Mother Jones.

    Over-represented are Asians, like Virginia Tech shooter Seung-Hui Cho, One L. Goh, Jeong Soo Paek, Jiverly Wong, Byran Koji Uyesugi and Gang Lu who are all East Asian, and West Asian/Arabs, such as Nidal Hassan, and Abdelkrim Belachheb, whom the sisters dishonestly label “white.”

    Also over-represented are black mass murders like Omar S. Thornton, Maurice Clemmons, Charles Lee Thornton, William D. Baker, Arthur Wise, Clifton McCree, Nathan Dunlap, Colin Ferguson, and we’re not even including the DC Snipers, John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo, because they are arguably serial killers instead.

    While white mass murderers are given considerable airtime, black mass murderers are ignored by the mass media as quickly as they possibly can… including the racist Washington Post.

    We also know that run of the mill, every day violence is also primarily caused by minorities.

    Are these overtly liberal sisters really sure they want to start playing race games? As it invariably leads back to the failure of progressive social engineering, I don’t think they do.”

  9. Bocephus Rex Says:

    I believe Fred needs more initials behind his name, like “B.O.R.I.S.H., A.S.S.” BFH’s reponse left a huge mark on your self-righteous piehole Fred. Better get some ice on that.

  10. There is something about a lucid, well thought out, rebuttal that sends a tingle up my leg. Well done BFH!

  11. “I’m a Professor!!1!!”

    heh heh

  12. wpdavidd Says:

    Two words: Virginia Tech.

    • sarahbloch Says:

      I am sure this gives you comfort in your mostly white suburb or out in the rural flyover parts of America while clinging to your guns and Bibles.

      • Sarahbloch
        What is your comment directed to? VA Tech? or the general conversation.

      • sarahbloch Says:

        Both Jethro.

      • Bocephus Rex Says:

        are you ‘given comfort’ in the fact that the Aurora shooter has converted to Islam in order to justify his ‘jihad’ killing spree? BTW, the biggest gun threat to blacks is other blacks. Glofified constantly in the ‘mo thuggin’ rap culture. WORD!

      • sarahbloch Says:

        Wow you just confirmed research that most white nationalists get the bulk of their news from the UK Daily Mail. http://now.msn.com/james-holmes-reported-to-have-converted-to-islam

      • Happy Easter Sarah. I’ll pray for you and all your progressive friends who are so far above God and don’t currently have a need for a gun to cling to.

      • Jethro Says:

        I’ve read your other articles at this sight. It seems you don’t have any positive things to say about conservatism. Where do you see yourself in the spectrum of politics? Are you marxist, anarchist, socialist?

      • sarahbloch Says:

        Jethro I am a Progressive.

      • Kauf Says:

        HEY sarablockhead: *THANKS* for confirming that you indeed *are* the stereotypical RACIST, MINDLESS Leftist. “wpdavidd” made no mention of his race or location…but YOU AUTOMATICALLY attempt (and fail!) to “refute” his point by going full-racist on him. Your hate-filled teachers must be so proud of you. BTW: it does not interest me in the least whether you are a “sista” in “da hood” or not (reference: your white and flyover remarks); your post speaks for its racist self.

      • Jethro Says:

        Do you mean “progressive” in the Fabian way, the NAZI way, or the Bolshevik way? Let’s be honest here – they all called themselves progressive.
        Or, are you a “modern” progressive, like Hillary Clinton, who gets her marching orders from George Soros, and wrote her thesis on Saul Alinsky?

      • sarahbloch Says:

        Well since I don’t advocate violence to assure political gain national socialism is out of the question. Free market capitalism being the best means to make all boats rise eliminates Marxist Leninism. So that makes me a modern Progressive yes in the mold of Hillary Clinton and many others. Saul Alinsky, for all the stick he takes from conservatives, was quite the effective social change teacher and his methods work even today and are used by virtually every political movement. If you got your head from up Rush Limbaugh’s ass you’d be able to see a bit more clearly where your country is going.

      • Jethro Says:

        Saul Alinsky was a mobster thug agitator. Nothing he ever did amounted to advancing society – just tearing it down.
        So you assume I bow down to Rush Limbaugh – another bigoted assumption on your part. I get my information from a wide variety of sources, and form my opinion on my own. I refrain from making assumptions about you. So, where do you gather information to form your opinions?

      • Jethro Says:

        A free market progressive? I giggled when I read that…

        So, you like the free market, but still want the “all knowing” elite to tax, regulate and coerce people’s activities?

      • Jethro, suffice it to say that no one’s mind is going to be changed here. Delighted we allowed you to vent your vitriol onto our pages but really, son, unless you are willing to die for change you have been a corporate slave in America since before you were born. And that is even if you consider yourself “rich.”

      • Jethro Says:

        Who are you?
        Are those deer hoves?
        I ate venison for dinner tonight (I killed it).

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        Let me ask you Jethro out of curiosity who would you like to see as the President of the United States in 2016?

      • Jethro Says:

        Calvin Coolidge

      • Jethro Says:

        Unless he is impeached I assume Oblamer will be president in 2016. The next president will be inaugurated in 2017.

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        Okay how about this smart ass. Who would you like to see as the winner of the 2016 US Presidential election? I’m looking for an individual here not “The American People” or any such cowardly dodge.

      • What exactly is wrong with the Bible? As a form of literature and history, it is quite the document. As a religious text, it is also superb. I particularly like that bit where Jesus calls out the hypocrites, like the ones who wear their self-righteousness on their sleeves by making fun of rural dwellers, religious believers or people who legally own guns in a country where guns are legal.

  13. Sarah,
    I never owned a gun, don’t go to church and don’t own a Bible and live right outside of NYC. Now what? What does your playback tell you to try now, in lieu of a cogent argument?

    • Bocephus Rex Says:
    • sarahbloch Says:

      That makes you the normal type of bigot rather than a mainstream conservative?

      • You just keep repeating a charge, yet you’ve failed to give me one example of my bigotry. Or, in your world, it’s simply enough to not be a progressive that makes one a bigot?

  14. Jethro Says:

    What is the basis for your assuming wpdavidd lives in either of those two locations, or is deeply religious?

  15. Self-Loading Hippie Cannon Says:

    Some of you high – I.Q. professors of liberal propaganda should put your money where your mouth is and spend just one Friday night riding the public transit system through Chicago, Detroit, or South Los Angeles, and then come back here and let us know the color and race of the people who attacked you, if you manage to live through it.
    Lets have some actual hands-on facts here, not a bunch of fantasy propaganda designed to turn the tables in your favor.
    How about some TRUTH?

    • sarahbloch Says:

      That’s quite funny coming from someone who lives in a county that has fewer people in it than my city block.

  16. Sarah,
    How do you feel about black nationalists?

    • sarahbloch Says:

      I feel any political identity based upon race is a effort doomed to failure. I do not support racial nationalism of any kind.

  17. So when can I expect your essay denouncing the NAACP?
    When can I expect to see you denigrating the CBC?
    Link me to your screeds where you come out against the waving of the Mexican flag on American soil?
    Where are your tomes that detail the folly of, in this day and age, creating a Palestinian state?
    I can’t wait to see them.

  18. Are you intentionally trying to be an idiot, or does it just come naturally? You are simply lost. You’re a lost cause. Your entire worldview is hate based. The boogeyman you’ve conjured up in your mind is so loathed by you that any movement, notion, action, cause, people, or sexuality that is NOT your bogeyman is your ally, even if it makes little sense to champion it.

    >>I feel any political identity based upon race is a effort doomed to failure. I do not support racial nationalism of any kind.>>>

    Yet, you do. You just simply rationalize away why your support for Mexican flag waving is not nationalism, or that the CBC is not a political identity based upon race.

    What professor has given you high marks for this sort of duplicitous scholarship? I suspect, all of them.

    And the link you provided is proof that I am a bigot? I think the guy is a moron, but he has the right to be a moron, just like you.
    You have no idea who I am or what I stand for. None. But that doesn’t stop you from shooting off from the mouth.

    So far you’ve said I live in flyover country -wrong.
    That I cling to Bibles – wrong.
    That I shoot guns – wrong.
    That more people live on your block than my county – wrong.
    That I’m a bigot – so far you’ve provided nothing to back that statement.
    When are you right? I know you think you’re always 100% right, but when are you right when non-delusional human beings are observing your exchanges?

    You really have no idea how hard you stepped on your own dick when you said I don’t understand the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.
    That was pretty humorous.

    Oh, by the way –
    a majority of people wanting a two-state solution in Israel = done deal

    a majority of people supporting prop 8 = foul!!! do over!!!! I’ll sue you all!!!!! Doesn’t mean nuthin!!! People are stupid.

    This is will be fun for awhile, but soon I will feel ashamed for beating up on an imbecile.

    • sarahbloch Says:

      What’s your problem with gay people marrying? If you don’t have some retrograde religious reason for keeping people who love each other apart what is it then that you can’t stomach the fact these people are having some sort of icky sex on their wedding night?

      And i still don’t think you have any reason to side with the violence that will continue to come unless there is a 2 state solution to the problems in the Middle East. The only people I know that are blind to this trueht are religious fanatics on both sides of the issue.

      • I stated early on that I have absolutely no problem with gay people marrying as long as they don’t force religious institutions to perform them.
        I will also add, I support the people’s right to point and laugh at some a-hole mincing around in buttless chaps and a Carmen Miranda hat, regardless of how I feel about it, because, that is some damn funny shite.
        The gay marriage crusade has gone through – tolerate it, sanction it, accept it – but in America there can never be a “respect it.” Shall I create a chant for that so that it might resonate with you?

        You see, Ms. Enlightenment, I am something that you cannot fathom, I’m a person that argues for what is right irrespective of my personal lifestyle.
        I don’t shoot guns. I don’t like guns. But I know the importance of an armed citizenry.

        I am sure you’ve worn a Che’ shirt in your mixed-up retarded journey on this orb.
        Where would Che be if Batista had them all, you friggin idiot.

        I believe gays should marry if they want to marry. I also believe that people have the right to be revolted by it if that is how it makes them feel.

        I’m not religious. I’m completely secular. But I will fight with Christians for their right to practice their religion as long as I’m not required to be a Christian.
        And I’ve never felt that pressure, ever, from Christians or Jews, Hindus, Buddhists or any other religion. Except for one, one that is the most brutal and violent theocracy on earth.

        And that brings us to Islam.
        You, dearest, are a moron. This is why I said before that you will champion a cause simply because they are an enemy of what you loathe, even though, as a lesbian Jew, you would be the first to go under Sharia. You could live in Israel (with Muslims, by the way- Apartheid my ass) with no problem. But you will fight for the people who want Jews dead because, I guess, you are anti-Zionist, completely ignoring that Muslims wanted Jews dead before 1948. You’re lucky you’re even here.

        I imagine you are saddened by he history of black slavery in this country. But you don’t have to go to fantasy camp in order to get the pheromone rush that being an empath to ancient history gives you. There is black slavery right now. 20% of the population of Mauritania is currently living in slavery. Chains, shackles, the whole bit.
        Will you take up the fight to free them?
        I doubt it. They are enslaved by Muslims.

      • For the record Ms Bloch is not Jewish, she is of German-Irish descent.

      • What in Hell does slavery in west Africa today have to do with the oppression of black Americans in the 17th century? Really I have to hazard a guess since you can speak English that you are not retarded yet you make such a conflated argument that isn’t suited for a seven year old cambion? Are you stupid man? Do you assume that the lives of the people brought to America all those centuries ago, treated as second class citizens for one hundred years after emancipation would allow them simply because of an act of Congress become fully vested citizens in your great experiment in representative democracy? Awful, sir you should truly reevaluate you ideology before it becomes a cancer upon your Soul.

      • Jethro Says:

        17th century?
        There were more white indentured servants in the colonies than blacks. Did you know the first SLAVE owner in North America was BLACK?
        Africans were enslaved by MUSLIMS in the 17th century, and throught the last few hundred years till today – and it still continures! Where is your outrage!

        Who fought to end slavery? The republican party….
        Who oppressed the blacks after emancipation? The democrat party….

        …read a book….

      • Jethro who were all those people in the Colonial South and early republic who kept slaves? How many slaves died crossing the Atlantic Ocean from Africa? Who owned or insured the ships used to travel to Africa to bring slaves to the American colony? You seem to say that since Muslims sold slaves and that America was built in its earliest times by indentured labour that somehow makes up for the savagery of slavery in Colonial America and the early United States. We, Ourselves, do not think that reading will help your condition as you are certainly too far gone. Maybe, in the Afterlife you will do better.

      • Jethro Says:

        “Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race.”
        Eugenics is … the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems.”
        “We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”
        – Margaret Sanger – PROGRESSIVE

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        Yet again who cares about that made up quote? Not anyone here. See you cannot shame us into going along to get along Jethro. We don’t care that you want to play a reverse race card because nobody I know cares about what Sanger may or may not have said 90 years ago. And we all know that your kind will lie at the drop of a hat to score “points” in a game that has been over for 40 years.

      • Jethro Says:

        “A part of eugenic politics would finally land us in an extensive use of the lethal chamber. A great many people would have to be put out of existence simply because it wastes other people’s time to look after them.”
        – George Bernard Shaw – Fabian Socialist (Progressive)

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        Wow what would you guys do if there had never been an Adolf Hitler or a Stalin or a Mao. You’d have nothing to reach back to for an appeal to authority.

  19. And I realize this isn’t a link to Faux News, Guns & Ammo or NASCAR magazine, but this writer for The Guardian can teach you a thing or two about your hated nationalism. You’re not the benevolent, enlightened progressive you think you are. Your views are actually quite regressive and destructive to the very people you think you’re helping.
    (but we both know you’re not in the business of helping anyone. You’re in the business of destroying what you hate under the guise of helping.)

    • sarahbloch Says:

      It seems to me that anything that makes the population of the United States more diverse in culture and experience is a good thing. What you are seeking Big Fur Hat is like trying to snuff out a nuclear explosion with a tea towel. I’m trying to save you a bit of agita, that’s all. The march of time is in our favor not yours no matter your bigoted stats, articles from newspapers from outside your own MSM or your seething sarcasm.

      • >>The march of time is in our favor not yours no matter your bigoted stats, articles from newspapers from outside your own MSM or your seething sarcasm.>>

        You’re not too much of a historian, are you? You actually believe that beliefs, morality, culture, and ideas have marched in a straight line over time? You amuse me especially so because you started your idiotic paragraph with this –

        >>>It seems to me that anything that makes the population of the United States more diverse in culture and experience is a good thing.>>>

        You write this before your verbal orgasm where you applaud the demise of a culture.
        Seriously, you’re an idiot. You’re like a hunchback that can’t see their own hump.

        You applaud diversity as long as your diverse society doesn’t include people who vote against your interests.

        Question –
        How come you never rebut any of the Sarah Bloch hypocrisy that I point out?

        Example – Applauding majority thinking in Israel, but not accepting the majority decision on Prop 8 in California.
        I don’t recall you addressing that, unless the stuff you’ve been writing are the rebuttals, and if that is the case, bless your heart.

      • It seems to me you are stupid.

      • Kauf Says:

        “The march of time is in our favor.”
        Such “thinking” [sic] has justified mass murders throughout history. I’m *sure* when Che went on his rampages, he made sure to only kill the *bad* homosexuals and blacks….
        Sara, YOU ARE *SUCH* AN IDIOT.

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        Look around you kauf why aren’t your all powerful Aryan brothers running things in America? Why isn’t America moving in a societal direction to your liking?

      • Bocephus Rex Says:

        SO Fred just ‘assumes’ Kauf is white and therefore an ‘Aryan’ brother. Why is that Fred? And why is HuffPo suggesting that Dr. Ben Carson (an ‘uncle Tom’ who wandered off the democratic plantation and has the audacity of success) to shut up? Guys like him really scare the left don’t they Fred? Subscribe to the dictated ideology or get labelled something……now what was that the left called Condi Rice, Allen West and Tim Scott? Oh yes, “house negroes’. Charming MO you have there, really.

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        Actually BoRex I’ve met Dr Ben Carson many years ago in Baltimore at a charity function for Johns Hopkins Children’s Center. Dr Carson is one of the most gracious and learned men I’ve ever met and I wouldn’t dream of allowing our political differences stand in the way of a freindship, or the great work that he has done and that he will do passing on his skills as a surgeon to future generations.

  20. Jack Klompus Says:

    This comments section is a hilarious circle jerk of people who think their excrement doesn’t smell. “Progressives” are funny.

  21. old_tree Says:

    WOW! Progressives certainly have some backwards logic, it’s plainly clear throughout this thread they’ve taken on the persona of the folks they demonize in an effort to feel good about themselves. I see it everywhere, the progressive is easy to spot, they’re the folks telling everyone what to do so they will be accepted by “the group.” Never mind individual thought, a free thinker isn’t a team player to the progressive and must be silenced at all cost.

  22. BFH….You’re my hero….

  23. old_tree Says:

    No need to be a lone black serial killer when you have 400+ on your side to carry out your attack.

    First warm day of spring in Chitcago (a progressive utopia), Gary “Streetlight” McCarthy has everything under control!


  24. Just felt like putting in my creds, I need them to appear smaught.

  25. Blue In The Face Says:

    It is very obvious who here cannot handle the truth: The idiots who wallow in their own victim-hood, scream about diversity, but refuse to accept the opinion or verifiable facts of anybody who does not go along with their religious beliefs of progressiveness.

    Get some help. How many socialists does it take to pull another socialist’s head out of their arse? Answer: they can’t, they all have them planted awfully deep.
    Ask a conservative to help you stop pissing all over your helpless selves. They are compassionate and will help those willing to help themselves — unlike the democratic party that works to enslave everybody stupid enough to drink from their well.
    Get a life, quit your damn crying and grow up. Progressives are life-long children. Is that what you want from life?
    Do something good, and something good is going to happen to you today!!!

  26. Bocephus Rex Says:

    The most intolerant, mysogynist and homophobic religion on earth is Islam, yet the left is to a man/woman absolutely silent on the subject. And no doubt ‘progressives’ like yourself rant and rail against the ‘intolerance’ of Christians who don’t share your views yet demand Muslims here are given the ‘right’ to live under Sharia. And yet the liberals, progs, and gays would be the first to be publicly executed for your ‘crimes’.

    As for Blacks…..do you never question why Asians can come to this country speaking no English, and within one generation their kids are blowing every other demographic out of the water on the SAT/ACT/MCT/LSAT/GMAT, etc.? Are blacks simply intellectually incapable of mimicking Asian culture in order to rise out of poverty, or are they unwilling to do the difficult stuff required. Let me guess—you say that Asians face no ‘discrimination’, right?

    • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

      And what makes you a bigot is that you never noticed or cared until after 11 September 2001. Show me one shred of evidence that you gave a flying fuck about women’s rights in Saudi Arabia or gay rights in Iran before you fucking parasites had your towers blown up.

      Maybe it’s because Asians didn’t have 15 generations of cracker assholes like you treating them like Hell. Yeah I know the history of the railroads and how successful Asians have become out west, but imagine anyone having to deal with having been a slave and then being told you’re free and then having that freedom taken away from you unlawfully because a race of people are angry that they lost a war which should have never been fought.

      • Kauf Says:

        Calling someone else a “bigot” makes for a refutation….ONLY TO A 3-YEAR OLD or A LEFTIST. In YOUR case, I’m not sure which applies best.

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        Your positions on matters of immigration, race and gender preference make you a chauvinist bigot. Look, I’d love to just look the other way but the only way people become like you and Jethro is by way of indoctrination when you’re kids or by finding solace in a group in post adolescence. There was one a school of thought that some violent crime must have been done to you or your loved ones by someone that inspires this viewpoint. Now the smart kids in the room just simply know you are closed minded and didn’t achieve what you should have and need someone to blame. Don’t worry it’s okay with me if you vent here. No minds are being changed but it does make for interesting reading.

      • Kauf Says:

        Assuming you [Fredrick] are responding to *me* with your 06:34 rant, you show what pre-pubescent, cookie-cutter STEREOTYPES you use to justify your enemetic diatribes: you know little to nothing of my positions on immigration, race and gender, and think worn-out Leftist put-downs are sufficient to make your position appear correct. The kindergardeners you must hang out with are probably impressed. Time to warn their mommies!

      • Kauf Says:

        Hey Fredrick: why don’t you just go “FULL MARX” on us and declare “we have determined that you are an enemy of the people and must be exterminated for the benefit of society.” That’s how stilted and mindless your claptrap and that of your she-comrade Sara is. YOU ARE A WALKING CLICHE…one which brings us many laughs.

      • old_tree Says:

        Do all those letters and punctuation after your name give you the right to openly be racist and swear like a drunken sailor?

        I started learning about Muslim atrocities well before 9/11, if you’ll recall there was plenty of opportunity well in advance to wonder; “why do they hate the World Trade Center.” Before that, a curious mind also wondered why we were bombing them in Kuwait. Genocidal killing sprees were rampant well before 9/11 as well, you had to have taken an interest in why someone would hack through villages with machetes?

        Contrary to your belief about my ‘cracker’ ideology regarding blacks. I see them as just another person I share the Earth with, they are no more or less important than me. Do I go out of my way to seek them out and befriend them? No, but then again I don’t go out of my way to befriend anyone. Why? Because I run into too many assholes such as yourself on a daily basis.

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        They certainly give me the right to swear like a drunken sailor. One of the things I’ve never been able to get is that for all their anger most Conservatives can’t swear worth a flying fuck and most of them actually take real offense at swearing. Fuck that. On your view of blacks you have every right to be a bigot and you don’t have to go out looking for assholes all you need is a clean mirror.

      • Let us not forget that the history of slavery, segregation, and anti-civil rights in this country has democrat fingerprints all over it. So it was YOUR party the blacks had to escape from to get their freedom. Which is why up until the democrats re-enslaved the blacks in the mid-1960s with The Great Society taurusfimus, blacks in this country voted Republican because they knew the enemy was the democrats.

        Now their votes are bought and paid for by democrats that pay the blacks just enough money to keep them killing each other in the inner city ghettos. This is your history of bigotry. The black community was seeing progress in their fight against the democrats in the 50s and early 60s. Standard of living was rising and unemployment was falling. Not as fast as the socialists promised (but never can deliver), but it was improvement nonetheless. By the mid 1970s with a decade worth of The Great Society, blacks were worse off than they were before the legislation was passed. Now, it has created a generational poverty that few can escape, democrats praise as progress, and conservatives rightly demonize as the cause of almost all of the ills of the black community.

        Bigotry and hatred of blacks is the past and current history of the democrat party.

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        So you stuck on the “Democrat” thing? Okay, the dominant party in the South at the time of the Civil War were the Democrats. They were supporters of slavery and profited heavily from it. In the north abolitionists were doing the great work that Liberals have always done trying to secure the rights of their oppressed brethren in the South. Fast forward 107 years from the shots being fired on Fort Sumter, South Carolina and you have Richard Nixon trying to figure out how to tap into all that bigotry and hatred that had been passed down from generation to generation among the white middle and lower classes which indeed had been voting for Democrats for more than five generations.

        Nixon employed the Southern Strategy which used the dual tactic of instilling fear in the minds of the poor and working class white in the South that the new voting power of blacks was going to 1) change their privileged way of life in new and even more frightening ways than it already had and 2) that these newly emboldened black voters would be coming next for their jobs and into their neighborhoods. So prior to this the natural home of the black voter in America was the GOP and should have been because they were the least caustic choice of the two major parties in America. Nixon’s twice successful use of the Southern Strategy signaled the end of the Democratic Party stronghold on white voters in Dixie. It also signaled the last great migration of voting blocs across party lines for, and I want you to pay close attention to these words, ideological purposes.

        Here are the words of the man himself Kevin Phillips, architect of Nixon’s Southern Strategy:

        “From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don’t need any more than that…but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That’s where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.”– New York Times, 17 May 1970

        By the time Ronald Reagan was running their needed to be more subtle nuance in cajoling the newest supporters of the GOP, working class whites, so the Reagan campaign jumped into bed with Falwell’s Moral Majority after Reagan’s speech in Neshoba County, Mississippi in the spring of 1980. Lee Atwater, noted GOP strategist of the 1980s made these comments to BOB Herbert in 1981:

        “Questioner: But the fact is, isn’t it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?

        Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger” — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states’ rights and all that stuff. You’re getting so abstract now [that] you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I’m not saying that. But I’m saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.”

        Does any of this sound familiar to you now? The blaming the current Democratic party for the ills of the 19th to mid 20th Century Democratic party is meaningless to millions of liberal whites, black and Latinos who only know the party from their life experience as the party of Kennedy, Johnson, Clinton and Obama. Progressives didn’t make the choice of which races would join which voting bloc–conservatives did when they let Nixon off the leash in 1968.

      • Bocephus Rex Says:

        Well Fred you’ve obviously hit your head on the ceiling too many times while jumping to conclusions. All that anger has clearly got you unhinged…..You really like that ‘bigot’ word for describing people with pointed questions you simply can’t actually answer. I did not support the Gulf wars but prior to 9/11 was aware of the murderous contempt Muslims have for women, gays and non-muslims throughout history. I’ve travelled much of the world and am also aware of Hitler’s alliance with the Grand Mufti who shared his views. Much like Calypso Louie whom the left also loves. And I’m also a parent of a gay child whom I support totally. DAMN Fred what now?

        As for Chinese and slavery and discrimination, you should educate yourself on the Boxer rebellion, the cultural revolution and how they fared under the Japanese. Its truly a pity that so many can’t figure out that personal choices almost always dictate circumstances in life. Lack of responsible parenting, sky-high birthrates to unmarried women and teenagers, no priority on education, not to mention willful decisions to indulge in crime, violence and drugs……….these things really don’t get you into even community college or trade shool, Fred. But I know, ‘the man’ is responsible for all these things. Hail the liberal agenda which keeps these people in hell-hole urban public schools and throws them the bones of food stamps and Medicaid and ensures they remain on the dole…..and grateful. Its worked out so WELL for the black community these past 50 years right?

      • Kauf Says:

        Women and homosexuals DON’T HAVE RIGHTS in Saudi Arabia or Iran, you poor excuse for a human failure. I didn’t hear YOU grandstanding in your fair-trade-tutu about the matter either. So, what makes YOUR REVOLTING BIGOTRY acceptable? “Revenge”? “Payback”?

        YOU ARE MORE SICK AND DESTRUCTIVE THAN *A*N*Y*O*N*E* YOU CRITICIZE HERE. A psychiatrist could help a sick fuck like you only insofar as you would *want* to be helped. Save the money, save the world the trouble and KILL YOURSELF. NOW.

      • Cesar Buzzarino, L.S.M.F.T Says:

        I’ve got your shred of evidence, dickweed. I’ve been donating to various organizations for decades to help the oppressed and the persecuted in all parts of the world — and have the receipts to prove it.
        How about you? What have you done for others who suffer under dictators and tyrants?

  27. Fred,
    When you got to the part where you said, “your towers” in reference to the destruction of the Twin Towers, that’s when I asked all the Gods in the world to please give you a painful fatal disease.

    I’m out of here. Die painfully.

    • sarahbloch Says:

      What’s wrong Big Fur Hat? Can’t take a little blowback for many decades of spreading death and destruction all over the world?

    • Cesar Buzzarino, L.S.M.F.T Says:

      I’d like to add that Fred should eat shit and broken glass. He doesn’t deserve to eat anything an American farmer produces.

      • sarahbloch Says:

        America generates more shit and broken glass than any other nation on the planet so Fred will be fine. Since we’re not in the US we don’t consume any American produce.

  28. Cesar Buzzarino, L.S.M.F.T Says:

    sarahbloch, you too should burn in hell’s fire for siding with the jihadis, and for being so ignorant of the fact that you would be one of the first ones to have your head removed by them.
    It is obvious that you hate America and the people who died protecting your rights.

    • sarahbloch Says:

      Siding with jihadis? Are you really that thick? This is what I’m talking about the knee jerk reaction you have for one day of misery when all the world had been suffering for decades because of a pissing contest between poorly bred revolutionaries in Moscow and the those ashamed of their small penises in business suits in Washington. This blogs mandate foremost is counter theocracy whether that abomination is Christian or Muslim or comes from any other religion. I agree that those that have corrupted Islam, like those who have corrupted the Catholic Church and the Evangelical movement in America, are my sworn enemies simply because I am a woman and I will not be silent. Still that does not mean that every Muslim or every Catholic is living their lives in support of the apostates that have hijacked their faiths.

      • Cesar Buzzarino, L.S.M.F.T Says:

        If you study the koran and the hadith, you might learn about the murdering pedophile who “corrupted” islam.

        What the hell country are you people from, anyway?

      • Kauf Says:

        Cesar, the pathetically nihilistic, consumed-with-hate asswipes going by the names of Fredrick and Sara claim to come from Hell…since they think – LIKE A FEW PIMPLY, PUBESCENT ADOLESCENTS – that *that’s* a “cool” place to be…and they think it therefore must viscerally give them some superior “power”…when, in fact, all it gives them is more pimples on their butts.

        Since they have a modicum of ability with the English language, I imagine they are jobless rejects from an English-language place like either outskirts of London, Dublin, Sydney…or maybe DES MOINES, IOWA!

        LET’S PLAY A GAME: where are these losers from?

  29. Cesar Buzzarino, L.S.D., P.C.P. Says:

    Where does Nancy Pelosi live? I’ll bet that’s pretty fckin close!

    • Kauf Says:

      I dunno, Cesar. The WE ARE THE BORG RESISTANCE IS FUTILE DON’T TELL MOMMY I’M USING HER COMPUTER types aren’t usually found near San Francisco.

      Maybe residents of an AUCKLAND, NZ HALF-WAY HOUSE?!?

  30. Cesar Buzzarino, L.S.D., P.C.P. Says:


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