A central argument for those who are race thinkers for quite some time now is that those of one race are inherently more violent than another race of people because their incidents of violence are higher by percentage of their population. We, Ourselves, see this as a trick of mathematics and a total and blatant ignoring of metaphysics. To be dead is to be grieved it has been said here in Hell since time immemorial. The families of people who are murdered by gun violence may care about the race of the person who killed their loved one, or many times they may not. What they certainly do not care about is the percentage of people in a race who commit such crimes. These people know that their loved ones no longer live. The Collective does not see this as a contest to see who is more violent, or murderous, We see this as a problem within the Human Condition that needs resolution.

Kauf a commenter who comes to this blog by way of Big Fur Hat’s makes the following comment:

From Bob Owens’ website: “Whites are under-represented by race in mass shootings, as are Hispanics, when you look at percentage of total population. Don’t take my word for it, either; look at the stats kept by über-left-wing Mother Jones.

Over-represented are Asians, like Virginia Tech shooter Seung-Hui Cho, One L. Goh, Jeong Soo Paek, Jiverly Wong, Byran Koji Uyesugi and Gang Lu who are all East Asian, and West Asian/Arabs, such as Nidal Hassan, and Abdelkrim Belachheb, whom the sisters dishonestly label “white.”

Also over-represented are black mass murders like Omar S. Thornton, Maurice Clemmons, Charles Lee Thornton, William D. Baker, Arthur Wise, Clifton McCree, Nathan Dunlap, Colin Ferguson, and we’re not even including the DC Snipers, John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo, because they are arguably serial killers instead.

While white mass murderers are given considerable airtime, black mass murderers are ignored by the mass media as quickly as they possibly can… including the racist Washington Post.

We also know that run of the mill, every day violence is also primarily caused by minorities.

Are these overtly liberal sisters really sure they want to start playing race games? As it invariably leads back to the failure of progressive social engineering, I don’t think they do.”

Kauf quoting Owens points to the following black mass killers [deaths listed here include the perpetrators.–F.S.]

Omar S. Thornton 9 dead, 2 injured in 2010

Maurice Clemmons 4 dead, 0 injured in 2009.

Charles Lee Thornton 7 dead, 1 injured in 2008.

William D. Baker 5 dead, 4 injured in 2001.

Hasting Arthur Wise 4 dead, 3 injured in 2005

Clifton McCree 5 dead, 0 injured in 1996.

Nathan Dunlap 4 dead, 1 injured in 1993.

Colin Ferguson 6 dead, 19 injured in 1993.

We, Ourselves are engaged to play Kauf’s little game but instead of in percentages which is the method of the bigot let Us deal in the number of lives lost, something that all Human Beings can understand on a personal level. This list above totals 44 dead and 30 injured in these incidents since 1993 with black shooters. Since black mass shooters are quite rare We, Ourselves will even include the DC Sniper who are actually serial killers into this list in the interest of fairness making the total to 54 dead and 33 injured.

We will also limit Ourselves to the last 20 years as did the commenter:

Mark O. Barton 9, dead, 13 injured in 1999.

James E Holmes 12, dead, 58 injured in 2011.

Michael K McClendon 11 dead, 6 injured in 2006.

Bruce J Pardo 10 dead, 2 injured in 2008.

Adam Lanza 27 dead, 2 injured in 2012.

This list holds 69 dead, 86 injured in a smaller snapshot of time and in fewer incidents committed by white men. However, this, as we have noted, issue of race is not Our point for it does no service to solving the problem of gun violence or murder in the United States. While for statistical purposes whites are “underrepresented” in mass shootings there is clear evidence that when they do kill with firearms their sprees concentrate more death and injury than any other racial group. Over time the largest familicides, school massacres and workplace shootings have been perpetrated by white men.

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  1. Self-Loading Hippie Cannon Says:

    How many of the white shooters were liberals or registered democrats, just out of fairness? Any of them study at the liberal Church of Google, like you godless pukes?
    There is a valid argument as to why liberal progressives should never be allowed to own or handle any type of weapon. Wanna have a go at that one?

    • We, Ourselves, of the Collective see this as a projection of your bigotry.

      • Voodoo Chille Says:

        You, yourselves, of the Collective, are a bunch of racist idiots. As a black lesbian gun owner, I am appalled by your ignorance of the subject of firearms in relation to the reduction of violent crime.
        You all sound like professional victims who think very highly of yourselves, but prefer to look down upon everybody who doesn’t agree with your idea of utopia.
        What a sham!

    • sarahbloch Says:

      I don’t believe that this is known whether the shooters were registered Democrats or not. I have known Progressives that are gun owners and none of them that I know have ever killed their families, shot up a school or gone to work to kill their co-workers. But of course that’s my limited personal experience.

      • Voodoo Chille Says:

        They were, and it is known. Just not by you over-educated race-baiters.

      • sarahbloch Says:

        VC where is your proof or is this one of those “gut feelings?” As I said I have no proof one way or the other as to the political affiliation of any mass shooter save for the ones that have mentioned such at trial.

  2. Jethro Says:

    The KKK was an extension of the democrat party.

    • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

      True but they were ideologically conservative reacting to all the liberal progress the nascent civil rights movement was making in the post WW1 era. Now are you a Liberal or a Conservative in the modern sense of the word?

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