For the last hour or so I have been listening to the stream of a conversation recorded yesterday by Gavin Seim of the communication between FBI agents and two of the remaining four holdouts at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge in Oregon. The pair heard in the audio one male and one female voice are David Fry and Sandy Anderson. It is my considered political opinion that these two are batshit crazy. They are not patriots they are terrorists who want in Fry’s own words, “The only way we are leaving here is dead or without charges!” You can listen to the profanity laced angry audio below.

The real curiosity in all of this is how a 27 year old man ended up in a rural desolate part of Oregon with weapons. Fry is the outcome of conservative America’s favorite youthful pastime–bullying. In an article written by John Sepulvado at Fry is described as an angry young man because of his bullying at the hands of white students in school since he and his brother were two of the only five people who weren’t white in the entire school. Now Fry is at the Malheur Refuge with Sandy Anderson raging at the FBI about “nazis” despite the numerous anti-Semitic rants he’s posted and declaring his oath to the Constitution despite being armed on federal property in violation of the law. Dangerous, yet delicious irony there.

In other news Cliven Bundy was arrested in Portland, Oregon by FBI agents as he arrived in the state in support of the last four Malheur holdouts. The group headed there to negotiate a release and of course to gain publicity, included Franklin Graham and Nevada state assemblywoman Michelle Fiore. Once again I have to ask if this were a group of heavily armed New Black Panthers demanding their constitutional rights in the same manner in the same place would any of the people calling for thousands of patriots to go there and defend them be listening???

Qu’ul cuda praedex nihil!

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  1. neocon01 Says:

    what a leftist crock of shiite

    • What exactly Mr Logan is leftist about reporting the facts?

      • neocon01 Says:

        go play with your gumdrops fool

      • It appears the fools are the holdouts screaming profanity at FBI agents.

      • neocon01 Says:

        if screaming profanities at leo were a crime half of the ghetto would be in jail…

      • The crime is that these people in Malheur have occupied federal property in possession of firearms and refuse to leave. The land they are on is secured by payment to owners of the property over 80 Terran standard years ago. There was no Eminent Domain involved the government did not steal the land; it was acquired legally as a wildlife preserve. What these people in the west of your country have is much anger that should be directed in places that help rather than incite stupidity. They were intoxicated by their privilege and now they are all in prison and what was accomplished by these acts? Revolution? This is laughable.

    • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

      Where’s your great white conservative armed revolution Bill old boy! Looks like they’re tucking tail and runnin’ from the feds! Where are all the OafKeepers and Three Pisscenters?! Did their powder all get wet when they lost bladder continuity? Ain’t they got no sharp knives left after cutting all that salt pork and bags of dicks they were sent? This is the right’s ultimate moment of stupidity! All hat and now even Cliven Bundy is in the hoose gow with no cattle! Yee haw!

      • neocon01 Says:

        there is none freddy boy now run along and blow farracan, BLN, and the nation of islam, you know the real ones who want a revolution.

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        That’s comedy. I already have someone beautiful to blow and that consumes quite a bit of free time. But do take solace in the fact that you will never have your way in social matters in America again. Oh wait . . .

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        The only Revolution you’ll see in the remains of your days Bill will be the one that puts wealth back in the hands of the middle class. Your kids will thank us Progressives when they’re your age.

      • neocon01 Says:

        Cliven Bundy is in the hoose gow with no cattle! Yee haw!

        that is why we resist communism and the likes of you

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        Fuck Cliven Bundy he’s sucked up enough OPM! Or is it okay when a crusty old white man claims OPM? Hmmmm?

      • sarahbloch Says:

        Easy Fred don’t beat him too much his poor heart won’t bear it.

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        You know Sarah I don’t have to swing so hard to hit such a big stupid target. Bill’s afraid of all things LGBT but he willingly bends over for Donald Trump! Now there’s a billion dollar fucking for ya!

      • sarahbloch Says:

        Now that’s rich I might use that one!

      • neocon01 Says:

        what are you a crusty old JEW ?
        my my freddy, the bigotry shows, and the little stupid piglet sidekick squeals in delight…

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        Hey nobody has more white friends than I do. LOL! I’m no bigot I just hate people who want to control the lives of free people.

      • neocon01 Says:

        projection freddy, im sacred of no fagot or dyke and it is you who doubles for pitcher AND catcher now go brush your teeth, they smell like your trannys ass hole.

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        Well you could have fooled me as much as you delight in being fucked in the ass by Trump. It’s a con, his whole run is a con. And you hayseeds have fallen for it. Even if he wins he’ll serve one term as a moderate and all of you will be howling about how shitty a president he is. And that will allow you idiots to move even more to the Right and nominate Limbaugh in 2020. This is almost too rich for words.

      • neocon01 Says:

        ummmm except im for Cruz DUH!

        now lets talk about REAL consand griftors…killary and slic willy and the obolas

  2. neocon01 Says:

    the real bat shiite crazy terrorists to worry about are the nation of islam, new black panthers, black lives matter.

    not a few guys in an empty building in the woods.

    • So if Black Lives Matter occupied an empty federal building you would support their actions? We, Ourselves would not support such criminal action.

      • neocon01 Says:

        they occupy burn, loot, riot, rampage entire city’s yet none get shot…why is that?
        one white guy with his hands up gets mowed down by half dozen agents with auto rifles… that the government you want?

      • That one white guy as you call him was no different than the many black men who were killed by police officers in possession of a gun. Trayvon Martin had no weapon but he in your own words had no right to defend himself against an armed man following him. In Our opinion Finicum committed suicide by cop because he felt that his death would lead to a greater “patriot” uprising. And to Us this is comedy because there will never be an uprising of organized white militias, people who want to live by the Constitution or any other reason because white people in their great masses in America actually have something to lose. The people in the ghetto you loathe so much have nothing to lose as they lost hope that your people would ever treat them as equals long ago.

        Opening fire on a crowd like that in Ferguson would have led to an armed conflict of the type you so desire Mr Logan but it wouldn’t have the outcome in your jurisdiction that you would hope. You would be faced with the horrible choice of being low on ammunition with those you have hated for so long bearing down on you and those you love. In that moment what would choose? To watch as your wife and daughters were brutalized or to shoot them in the head one by one and then yourself and earn eternal punishment in Hell? We, Ourselves suspect you would choose bullets over being helpless in the face of your enemy.

        Qu’ul cuda praedex nihil!

      • neocon01 Says:

        what an insane rant

      • sarahbloch Says:

        Only to a stupid old bigot like you.

      • neocon01 Says:

        only to a dumb fat pig like you

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        You never answered Pain’s eloquent question. If Black Lives Matter occupied an empty federal building with weapons demanding that America return to the Constitution would you support them?

      • sarahbloch Says:

        You know he can’t answer that question any more than he can answer mine Fred.

      • sarahbloch Says:

        I guarantee you Neocon01 that I am dozens of IQ points higher and many kilos lighter than your wife.

      • neocon01 Says:

        IQ? now I know you are lying…

        The princess is 5’2″ and weighs 101 lbs with NO fake tits (ahem).
        She is considered a “hottie” by many young and old men alike…

      • neocon01 Says:

        blm illegally occupy government property almost daily, shutting down interstate hi ways interfering with thousands of peoples right of free movement and blocking interstate transportation for a few crimes.
        an unoccupied building in the woods is laughable….the bros would kill each other for the last can of beans.

      • neocon01 Says:

        If Black Lives Matter occupied an empty federal building with weapons demanding that America return to the Constitution would you support them?


      • neocon01 Says:

        LEGAL WEAPONS as those in the empty building posess

  3. neocon01 Says:

    • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

      I’m going to listen to this bullshit then I’ll comment accordingly.

      • neocon01 Says:

        then you will be defending me and going against the real bull shit being flung here? I doubt it.

    • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

      Okay the glaring issue here is the ranchers didn’t comply with federal law. Let’s agree that the BLM was a little aggressive in their enforcement but what I find hilarious is this whole kerfuffle started in the tail end of the Reagan administration and all through the Bush administration. I bet none of those ranchers are liberal Democrats! Can you at least appreciate the irony there?

      • neocon01 Says:

        no irony, just the long overreach of the federal government.

        “Any government big enough to give you everything, is big enough to take away everything”….RR

        thus the rise of the constitutional backing TEA “party”

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        The long overreach blah blah blah. What the fuck ever who cares about these people who are too poor to buy land? Fuck em? Isn’t that how you feel about the poor? Fuck em? It doesn’t feel so good when it’s your fucking stupid tribe does it?

      • neocon01 Says:

        im too poor to buy the land and you hate me…..your Hippocracy is showing there cabby.
        Maybe Killary could by it and donate it ….nah she just steals it.

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        Why do you think ranchers like to by property adjacent to federal land Bill?

      • neocon01 Says:

        the point there should be NO “federal land” that is the point freddy, even a hack like you should understand that

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        No federal land? Really? So you would eliminate every Marine Corps Base, Naval Base and Army Fort in the country? Those are all federal land. Or do you just mean open land so ranchers can graze their cattle for nothing? This is capitalism 101 Bill old boy; nothing is free.

      • neocon01 Says:

        sorry fred I thought you knew what I was inferring, next time ill break it down so even a retired cabby can understand it.

      • neocon01 Says:

        fred did you watch the video? in its entirety?

        if not please do then comment.

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        And here’s the 9th Circuit ruling of the appeal of the United States:

        CARSON CITY — The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled in favor of the federal government in a long-running dispute with the late Nevada rancher Wayne Hage, remanding the case to a new federal judge because of apparent bias on the part of U.S. District Judge Robert Clive Jones.

        In a separate unpublished memorandum also filed Friday, the panel of the appeals court reversed a finding of contempt against BLM employee Thomas Seley and U.S. Forest Service employee Steven Williams, finding that Jones “grossly abused the power of contempt.”

        In the main opinion, the 9th Circuit, in a ruling written by Judge Susan Graber, granted the request by the U.S. government to reassign the case.

        “Defendants openly trespassed on federal lands,” she said. “Rather than simply resolving the fact-specific inquiries as to when and where the cattle grazed illegally, the district court applied an ‘easement by necessity’ theory that plainly contravenes the law.”

        “A dispassionate observer would conclude that the district judge harbored animus toward the federal agencies,” Graber wrote. “Unfortunately, the judge’s bias and prejudgment are a matter of public record.”

        On the first day of the 21-day trial in 2012, Jones said the BLM came to the court “with the standard arrogant, arbitrary, capricious attitude that I recognize in many of these cases.”

        The decades-long dispute centers on the Hage family’s Pine Creek Ranch near Tonopah, and is well known in the West and among property rights advocates who charge the government exercises a heavy hand in relations with those who make their livelihood off the land.

        The ruling is the latest chapter in a feud that dates to the days of the Sagebrush Rebellion. The government charged the Hage family, along with rancher Benjamin Colvin, with trespassing by grazing cattle without a permit on Bureau of Land Management and U.S. Forest Service land.

        Hage died in 2006 and the fight has been carried on by his family and son Wayne N. Hage Jr.

        The younger Hage said in a telephone interview Monday that an appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court would be difficult.

        “I don’t know what the future has in store for us,” he said. “We have been dealt a lot of ugly over the years. I”m not sure where it’s going to go.

        “It is a big disappointment, not just for my family but for the entire industry,” Hage said. “They felt relief at the Jones decision. Ranchers’ rights had been upheld but now it has all been overturned. It looks to me like the 9th Circuit just swelled the ranks of the militias.”

        Hage said he is not involved with the militias but that he understands their frustrations with the federal government.

        The court victory for the Hages came on May 24, 2013, when Jones issued a 104-page opinion detailing what he called the federal government’s vindictive actions against the ranching family.

        “The government’s actions over the past two decades shocks the conscience of the court,” Jones wrote in his opinion.

        But on appeal to the 9th Circuit, the court found in favor of the government claims that Hage was trespassing on public lands by grazing cattle without a permit.

        While Jones made a similar finding, he ruled against the government by finding that the Hages’ water rights provided a defense to the government’s claims of trespass.

        The U.S. government filed suit in U.S. District Court in Las Vegas, alleging that between 2004 and 2008, the Hages grazed cattle on federal land without a permit.

        The 9th Circuit said that ownership of water rights has no effect on the requirement that a rancher obtain a grazing permit.

        The appeals court directed the district court to enter judgment for the government on all claims supported by the record and calculate appropriate damages.

        “We encourage the parties and the court to bring this litigation — unnecessarily protracted by the district court — to a speedy and just resolution,” the court said.

        The Hage case preceded the more recent confrontation between federal agencies and Bunkerville rancher Cliven Bundy. The BLM’s efforts to round up cattle belonging to Bundy in 2014 resulted in an armed confrontation between federal agents and Bundy supporters that ultimately ended peacefully.

        In the latest battle against the federal government over land issues, the Bundy sons and supporters occupied a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon. That occupation, which started Jan. 2, was still underway Monday.

        Jones has had his share of conflict with the 9th Circuit Court.

        His rejection of same-sex marriage in Nevada in 2012 was overturned by the appeals court in 2014. So was his 2012 effort to pull “None of These Candidates” off Nevada’s ballots. More recently, Jones was overturned in September 2015 when the 9th Circuit revived a lawsuit against the Nevada Health and Human Services Department over the issue of disenfranchising potential low-income and disabled voters.

      • neocon01 Says:

        there was an INVISIBLE line 22 miles long that the government could not identify, one foot north you were legal, one foot south you were illegally grazing….give me a fucking break.

        if you didnt hate successful white men so bad you would be up in arms

      • neocon01 Says:

        the permits were illegally revoked before the charges…imagine that….

      • neocon01 Says:

        riight pee wee

        ‘Liberal’ Reputation Precedes Ninth Circuit Court
        By JOHN SCHWARTZAPRIL 24, 2010

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        When President Obama earlier this year nominated Goodwin Liu, a liberal Berkeley law professor, to the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, conservatives did not just criticize Mr. Liu — they also attacked the circuit court he hopes to join.

        Senator Jeff Sessions, Republican of Alabama and the ranking member of the Judiciary Committee, called the circuit “an activist court that has handed down decisions striking ‘under God’ from the Pledge of Allegiance and finding Megan’s Law to be unconstitutional.”

        It is a familiar refrain. Those cases and others have been part of a longstanding argument that the court is out of touch with the nation’s political and judicial mainstream. It has long been a favorite target of ridicule among Republicans:

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        Okay sure that makes what happened in he case of the Hage family make more sense? If you read any of the article I posted in full as a comment you would see that the judge bore a conservative anti government bias. Robert Clive Jones the judge who presided in the original hearing was appointed by George W Bush in 2003.

      • neocon01 Says:

        It is a familiar refrain. Those cases and others have been part of a longstanding argument that the court is out of touch with the nation’s political and judicial mainstream.

  4. neocon01 Says:

    law and order does not mean blind support of the new police state and criminal cops. I dislike the police (in general) as much as the left does.

    tra von martin did not know the man he chose to felony batter, and attempted to murder for performing his legal duty as a crime watch captain was armed until GZ legally defended himself.
    the blame for this criminal druggie’s death is 1000% on him.
    I give kudos to GZ for his actions that night.

    • sarahbloch Says:

      So if Trayvon had been a white girl you would still side with Zimmerman?

    • neocon01 Says:

      if she ambushed him, broke his nose, knocked him to the ground straddled him and was slamming his head on concrete telling him you are going to die tonight?
      damn right shoot her ass

      • sarahbloch Says:

        Wow how unexpected.

      • neocon01 Says:

        whats right is right…

      • neocon01 Says:

        the same would hold true if it was some white punk named billy bob.

      • Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] Says:

        I think if the girl was white and Zimmerman killed her even if she did beat his ass and was a meth head the jury would have convicted him because he wouldn’t have been a white Hispanic to the media then.

      • neocon01 Says:

        you are obviously ignorant of Fla law then freddy.
        The police and prosecutor all said it was a legal shoot and refused to charge or indite him.
        It wasnt until the black panthers, and race agitators je$$ah, al and barry the buffoon stirred up enough trouble and threats of massive violence did the governor and AG capitulate their authority, throw the law to the wind and prosecute him anyway…..the just pissed of the cowards shoes and follower law.

  5. neocon01 Says:

    should be
    the jury pissed on the cowards shoes and followed law.

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